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Post by Prince_Ace Fri Mar 20 2015, 16:33

Good for Mihawk? with laboon 19o5ty[/img]

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Post by Relamir Fri Mar 20 2015, 20:21

Looks good to me, but swap the blue crab for a green one as even a little more damage per turn on Mihawk would speed up your grind on him.  150 x 100 rounds, so it would essentially save you 50 rounds of damage. (Blue does half damage on Green)

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Post by Prince_Ace Fri Mar 20 2015, 20:48

Crap, I'm out of the green one, how about change to dragon and increase vivi's level?

How did you do the math btw? 150 x100?

Can you do the math of what HP should I be aiming in order for vivi to be able to heal above 50%?

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Post by ESTEBANX Sat Mar 21 2015, 06:56

As if you would not get a crab in 30 days Very Happy

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Post by Light Sat Mar 21 2015, 13:56

am I missing something? crabs? really? Shocked
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Post by Prince_Ace Sat Mar 21 2015, 14:59

Relamir, where did you get 150 x 100 rounds thing?

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Post by HappyGoLucky Sat Mar 21 2015, 16:29

This set-up + laboon might have a lot of trouble before Mihawk silent with the 5 mobs
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Post by Prince_Ace Sat Mar 21 2015, 18:22

I know lol. Any helpful advice please? X_X

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Post by Relamir Sat Mar 21 2015, 19:20

@ Light

What you are missing is the fact that Mihawk on 40 Stamina basically gives you a 100% chance to get Mihawk on the first battle. He's has 1,180,000 HP, does 4,000 damage before you get a single shot at him and does 10,000 damage per turn until you bring him down to about 350,000 HP after which he does 25,000 per turn. With Vivi + Laboon, the reason you take crabs is based on the max health of the team, you need to make sure your Vivi can heal more than half of your whole team's health. If you can, then you can be sure to be able to take any 1 hit from anyone no matter what damage he does and still be at 1 HP.

@ Prince

I just put that assumption out there, but believe me, you will be having more than 100 rounds on 40 Stamina Mihawk unless you do get enough heal amount to put in a few stronger FORCE attackers. 1180000/10k = 118 turns assuming you can do 10k per turn. Any less = more turns.

@ HappyGoLucky

Not necessarily, Ciro already put this video in the Mihawk guide. As long as you can swap efficiently on the correct colored enemies and crabs as well as preventing more than 1 attack per turn, you should be fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSm1TSfOXD0

Most of the enemies in 40 STA seem to be high ATK, mid to high DEF, Low HP

1st: 5 Enemies with about 1300 HP each
2nd: 3 turtles with 20 HP each
3rd: Marine with less than 5k-7k HP, Pirate Penguin with ~5000 HP
4th: 5 enemies with 5 HP each and the Elder Seahorse with 10

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Post by DayPirates Sat Mar 21 2015, 20:04

if you can afford the HP, I recommend the black cat pirates that are dropping in the Kuro event right now.
They have low HP and high ATK (+10HP / +20ATK per lvl).

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Post by ESTEBANX Sun Mar 22 2015, 02:17

Relamir, as always, really nice help.

Guys, lets make sure that we team up and get each other into friends with Laboon+Vivi parings. I myself will make sure I have a Vivi ready but then I wont grind Laboon of course.

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Post by TerrorEntchen Sun Mar 22 2015, 02:28

Is there a guide to beat Mihawk without this trick?
I don't have Vivi or Laboon Sad
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Post by Lecho Sun Mar 22 2015, 06:39

TerrorEntchen wrote:Is there a guide to beat Mihawk without this trick?
I don't have Vivi or Laboon Sad
New island should be released before Mihawk appears, so you can farm for laboon there
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Post by Prince_Ace Sun Mar 22 2015, 07:14

Farming Laboon will be a pain in the S lol. Same like Arlong
Anyway thank you Relamir for the detailed advice and being active and thanks DayPirate for that suggestion. Luckily I haven't sold butchie yet, only Siam lol

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Post by Relamir Sun Mar 22 2015, 08:11

lol I was just about to post that the "common" Black Cat Pirates were good alternatives if you have a higher level Vivi as they do surpass the 300 ATK the crabs have (I personally didn't check until last night and was too tired to post)

Siam and Butchie though I think are standard higher HP than ATK which isnt what you want with Vivi/Laboon strategy if you can help it.

As for beating 40 STA Mihawk without that trick, you probably need a high level Gear 3rd Luffy team with your whole team over level 70 in order to do enough damage fast enough, though what I don't know is if you can survive long enough without needing to revive.

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Post by Prince_Ace Sun Mar 22 2015, 08:25

Uhh aren't you contradicting yourself? You said they're good alternatives but then you said they're not xD

DayPirates said they're low HP, high ATK, isn't that good then for Laboon Vivi? What about evolutionary dragons?

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Post by Relamir Sun Mar 22 2015, 08:52

No, I didn't really contradict myself, the ones I said were good are the "Common" ones, not Butchie + Siam

Common being:
Knuckle Punk
Saber Punk
Halberd Punk - Though this one would only be a better Blue crab (Not recommended)
Pistol Punk
Cannoneer Punk

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Post by ESTEBANX Sun Mar 22 2015, 09:43

Dragon is HP/ATK 500/500. If you bring 4 dragons, you need heal over 1400 probably (and therefore more or less the final evolution). It might be possible to sneak in a red dragon though.

Just find the best HP/ATK-Ratio Force Unit.

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Post by Relamir Sun Mar 22 2015, 10:14

I might level a Kuro Neko Pirate to their max level as I did get a Vivi so I can level her to a decent level to make up for the higher HP

Estimated Stats of some of the Kuro Neko Pirates based on estimated level growth from the ones I still have (I hadn't checked until last night so I had used the Pistol Punks to level my Vivi)

Knuckle Punk Lv25 - 270 HP, 609 ATK
Saber Punk Lv25 - 294 HP, 588 ATK
Halberd Punk Lv25 - 272 HP, 590 ATK
Pistol Punk Lv1 - 30 HP, 117 ATK (If someone has any other level Pistol Punk please post its stats so I can get an estimate out)
Cannoneer Punk Lv25 - 266 HP, 617 ATK

Though even with these stats, I can only assume you 100% need Princess Vivi to heal at least 1300 HP in order to make it work. A team of dragons would probably require 1700+ Heals (you need to assume that since Princess Vivi is the only one able to heal more than 1050 that you have to use her HP values and approx 750-800 HP for laboon since usually level drops are around 10)

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Post by Prince_Ace Sun Mar 22 2015, 10:45

Ohh I see... phew this is tough lol I guess I'll stick with crabs for now since grinding vivi is a pain x.x

I guess "too long didn't read", the lower the lvl of vivi, the more you just have to use crabs lol

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Post by ESTEBANX Sun Mar 22 2015, 16:08

Maybe the best thing would be to get the force pirate in your team, that might speed things up alot. I think, most other things are not possible. Just get hold of two of those units and wait until time comes. They are easy to level up and when Mihawk comes around, you will have to know just how much your Vivi heals.

Keep in mind that you have no power over the Laboon players. So, if there level is too high, you will have to alter your team.

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Post by Relamir Sun Mar 22 2015, 17:17

Yep, very true

I will likely farm for Laboon anyways though so I can use him if I have any decent Vivi Captains to use.

Most likely I will be using the following by then:

Nefertari Vivi ~Lv50
Knuckle Punk ~Lv25
Red Crab
Yellow Crab
Purple Crab

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Post by Prince_Ace Mon Mar 23 2015, 06:30

Nefertari is the 4 star right? Hmm I will follow you lol rather than all crabs

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